Arindam:- Hello! Viewers! You are
watching your favourite show, ‘WINE WITH ARINDAM’ in Royal Bengal Tigers (RBT)
TV Channel. Today, we have invited two eminent persons in our studio. Please
welcome Mr. Darius Darwin, the famous scientist cum DNA analyst and Mr. Ramchandra
Rajvanshi, the famous historian cum anthropologist. Please take your seat, Sirs
and enjoy the Red Wine with salted fried mushrooms and crispy boneless mutton
pakodas. Cheers! Recently, both of you have completed a research project in which
you have worked jointly. The name of that research project is “HISTORY OF SAIN
DYNASTY”. Tell us something about that project.
Darius Darwin:- Before coming to
the main topic, you must assume some facts. The Planet Earth was once in a gaseous
state. At that time, there was a star nearer to Earth which had almost
equivalent power like the Sun. That star died a natural death after millions of
years. After the death of that star, the temperature of the Earth dipped by so
much that the entire planet remained in a frozen state. After several thousands
of years, the Sun started gaining its power due to inclusion of some heated
meteorites on a gradual basis. Gradually, the temperature of the Planet Earth
started increasing. As a result, the entire Planet Earth was in a liquid state.
It was water everywhere. Point to be noted that since the origin of the Planet
Earth, the meteor attacks were taking place on the Earth. So, obviously, these
meteorites got dumped at the centre of the Earth to form a magnetic field.
Tectonic plates are nothing but the dumped meteorites for millions and millions
of years. Several earthquakes started taking place to balance the equilibrium
of tectonic plates when the Planet Earth was in liquid form. Due to one of the
strongest earthquakes ever, a huge mass of rocky and sandy land came up from
the centre of the Earth. For around 1000 years or so, that huge mass of land
was at the middle of the Earth. This huge mass of land was known as Pangaea.
People say that Pangaea got formed after Gondwanaland. But, that’s not true.
Basically, Pangaea got formed first and then it broke out into several large
landmasses.
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- In Pangaea
Supercontinent, humans evolved directly from very big fishes in Siberian and
Australian coast. Humans evolved directly from big monkeys in the jungles of
China and Japan. Point to be noted here that in ancient times, both China and
Japan were together geographically and was known as Nippon. Later on, due to
earthquakes, Japan got separated from China geographically. In the jungles of
Central Africa, South India and Central America, the humans evolved directly
from the apes such as chimpanzees, orangutan or gibbons. The evolved humans of
Siberia came to be known as Eskimo. The evolved humans of Australia came to be
known as Aborigine.
The evolved humans of China and Japan came to be known as Ainu. The
evolved humans of Central Africa came to be known as Maasai. The evolved humans of
South India came to be known as Dravidian. The evolved humans of Central America
came to known as Aztec. A group of Eskimo migrated further westwards to have
dominance on Alaska, Canada, Iceland, Greenland, Europe and Arctic Circle and
came to be known as Europeans. A group of Eskimo people migrated
south-westwards towards Persia and came to be known as Aryans. Another group of
Eskimo people migrated southwards from Siberia towards Mongolia and came to be
known as Hun. A group of Ainu people migrated southwards to settle down at
Myanmar, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, North Korea, South Korea and
other south-east Asian nations. Aborigine people were happy with their
Australia Island, though; a group of Aborigine people explored further
south-eastwards to settle down in an island of New Zealand. In New Zealand,
these Aborigine people came to be known as Maori. A group of Dravidian people migrated
north-westwards towards Indus River to create the famous Indus Valley
Civilization and south-eastwards towards South-East Asian nations like
Singapore and Indonesia. A group of
Maasai people migrated westwards towards Caribbean islands and north eastwards
towards Egypt and Arab. A group of Aztec people migrated towards Chile through
Amazon Basin of Brazil. So, there were 6 (six) primitive human communities in
this Planet.
Arindam:- Ok! That’s quite
interesting! Now, please tell us about the main topic.
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- The Hun
people tried to invade China, but, the Ainu people of China created such a huge
and stretched wall i.e. The Great Wall of China, that the Hun people dropped
the idea of conquering China. Then, the Hun people marched westwards. A group
of Hun people settled down after conquering several small kingdoms in and
around Aral Sea and Caspian Sea. Another group of Hun people marched further
westwards to enter Europe through Belarus. Hun people who entered Europe lost
their supremacy and became ordinary citizens of Europe. Some of them became
good singers and musicians in Europe. Attila was a good ruler of Hun people,
but, after his death, the Hun people started fighting among themselves. Hun
people had no religion and used to worship only the trees and rocks before
going to war. After the Battle of Dara in 530 AD, the Hun people were losing
their power in Central Asia. Sunicas utilized the Hun people to fight against Persian
Sassanid Empire. Ataneq Sain, a reputed military chief of the Hun who worked
under Sunicas understood beforehand that the Persians are too powerful to
destroy the Byzantine or Greek empire. So, a group of Hun people migrated south
eastwards towards Indus River to conquer the Aryan empire of Sindh. But, ironically,
the then King of Aryan Empire managed to sign a peace treaty with the Hun
people. There is a very interesting thing to be noted. Thousands of years back,
Eskimo people who settled down in Persia were known as Aryans and had no
religion at all. They came out with a new principle of peace and universal
brotherhood. Later on, the Caliphs of Arab started forcing the Aryans of Persia
to get converted into Islam. As a result, Aryans started migrating to Indus
Valley Civilization created by Dravidians. At that time, Indus Valley
Civilization was stretched from Hindukush Mountains to Indus River. The Aryans
and Dravidians who settled down near Hindukush Mountains had one common enemy,
i.e. the Muslim rulers of Arab and Persia. At that juncture, they decided to
give birth to a new religion, which is known as Hinduism.
Arindam:- Wow! Exciting history!
Darius Darwin:- Yeah! History of
Central Asia and India is always exciting. Hun people never became Muslims at
any cost. The Hun people who remained in Central Asia got converted to
Christianity by getting married to either Greek or Roman people. The Hun people
who migrated towards Indus River got converted to Hinduism by getting married
to either Aryan or Dravidian people. Now, from this point starts the new twist
in the history of Sain Dynasty. Over to you, Mr. Rajvanshi!
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- See! There
is a problem with Hindu religion. Hindu priests always created so many
divisions and subdivisions within Hindu religion. So many castes and
sub-castes! The people of Sain dynasty who married to Dravidian people were
coined as low-caste Hindus by the Aryans. So, in the Sain dynasty, a division
was created by the Aryans. The Hun people had no religion and no division among
them at all. But, now, they have been divided in the name of religion and caste
by the Aryans. Therefore, a section of Sain dynasty who got coined as low-caste
Hindus formed their own community known as Sain Samaj and they united all the
low-caste Hindus who were Hun people to form a new caste known as Jat. In
Hindi, the word ‘JAAT’ means Caste. So, the word, ‘JAT’ evolved from ‘JAAT’
only. Later on, a group came out from Sain Samaj to be known as Saini
Community. Majority of people of Saini community are Sikhs.
Arindam:- Why the Huns who married
Aryan people or Hun people did not protest against the Aryans regarding this
issue?
Darius Darwin:- Why should they? The
Hun people who got married to Aryan people got a new identity as they came to
be known as Rajputs after conquering some small kingdoms of Rajasthan. The
Rajputs Kshatriyas became too busy in conquering the kingdoms of Marwari and
Gujarati Kings. A group of Rajputs protested against too much violence and
bloodsheds; and later on, they migrated to Uttar Pradesh to become Brahmins. The
successor of Sain Brahmins of Uttar Pradesh started fighting with people and
conquering the lands of the poor farmers. So, these Sain Brahmins came to be
known as Sain Thakurs and some of these Thakurs also became the Bahubalis of
Uttar Pradesh. On the other hand, when the invasion of Mughal Empire destroyed
the Rajput Empire in India, those Rajputs started migrating towards
Maharashtra. You will find some good businessmen in Maharashtra who are from
Sain dynasty but they are Marathi now.
Arindam:- Is Sainbaba of Shirdi
somehow related to Sain dynasty?
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- No, there
is no link. See! The word, ‘Sain’ has different meanings. The word, ‘Sain’
means ‘A Friend or a Guru or a Lover or a Leader or a Messenger of God.’ There is a saying, ‘Jaare rakho Sain, maar
saake na koi.’ This dialogue is common among the Sikh people. It means that if
their Guru’s blessings are with a person, then you can do no harm to that
person. In Gujarat, the word, ‘Sain’ means a good friend. In Maharashtra and
South India, the word, ‘Sain’ means ‘a messenger of God’. Sainbaba was just a
common man of Maharashtra who tried to preach that ‘Sab ka Malik ek hain’.
That’s why; Marathi people gave him the name of ‘SAINBABA’ as he acted like a
messenger of God.
Arindam:- Ok! Then where did the
people of Sain dynasty migrated further?
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- In South
India, the Sain dynasty migrated till northern Karnataka and northern Andhra
Pradesh to become more conservative in their lifestyle and attitude. A group of
Sain Thakurs of Uttar Pradesh entered Bihar when Sher Shah Suri was in power in
Delhi. The Sain Thakurs of Bihar started having some violence among themselves
regarding the lands in Bihar. The group of Sain Thakurs who lost the battle in
Bihar with the other group of Sain Thakurs planned to go out of Bihar. A group
of the loser Sain Thakurs entered Rourkela from Aurangabad and another group of
loser Sain Thakurs entered Bardhaman from Giridih when Nawab Siraj-ud-daulah
was in power. Point to be noted here that the present Bihar and some parts of
Northern Orissa was totally under Bengal when Nawab Siraj-ud-daulah was in
power in and around 1750 AD. A group of Sain Thakurs got married to Orissa
Brahmins and became Oriya Brahmins who came to be known as Swain Brahmins.
Again, a clash took place between Sain Thakurs and Swain Brahmins. The Sain
Thakurs went out of Northern Orissa to enter Midnapore District of Bengal. In
Bardhaman, the Sain Thakurs maintained good relationships with the British
people to become the Zamindars of Bardhaman. Some of the people of Sain family
of Bardhaman became hermits and migrated further eastwards to enter East
Bengal. In East Bengal, these Sain Thakurs became Sain Fakirs as they had no
money. Their only job was to sing Bengali folk songs.
Arindam:- Ha ha ha...Whosoever
enters Bangladesh becomes a Fakir only. What’s next?
Darius Darwin:- At least those fakirs
of Sain dynasty are much better than the hooligans of Sain dynasty. You analyze
the history of Sain dynasty! One word is common and that is, ‘Fighting’. Some
of the people of the Sain dynasty of Bardhaman revolted against the Left Front
and hence got killed brutally. But, still, the Sain dynasty of Bardhaman is
flourishing as their successors have migrated in Hooghly, Howrah and Kolkata to
succeed in several businesses and in other professions. On the other hand, the
people of Sain dynasty who entered Midnapore became Zamindars too in the
initial stages by taking the help of British Rulers, but, later on, all the
people of Sain dynasty in Midnapore became freedom fighters and fought against
the British.
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- As a
result, the Sain Brahmins of Midnapore became too poor to start farming. As per
laws of Hinduism, if a Brahmin does farming on his own with plough and cows,
then that Brahmin loses his Brahmin status. The Sain Brahmins or Thakurs became
Sain Kayasthas in Midnapore. In 1943, a famine took place in Bengal. At that
juncture, a group of Sain Kayasthas migrated to Sunderbans delta by crossing
the Hooghly River. Some of these Sain Kayasthas of Sunderbans area have
migrated to Kolkata to flourish further. In my opinion, ‘Migration’ is the
keyword of Sain Dynasty. It is in their gene only like the nomadic Bedouins have
it in their gene.
Darius Darwin:- The people of
Sain Dynasty are talented people. They are normally addicted towards music,
arts, literature and drama, but, side by side, they are good strategist. The moment, they
find anything wrong with their current strategy, they will immediately change
their strategy without even thinking about its outcome. Fortune favours the
brave. That’s why; the people of Sain Dynasty never repented about their
migration and conquest strategy. The only problem is that the Sain Dynasty has
too many divisions among themselves with several personal and non-personal issues.
Another problem is that the people of Sain Dyansty are very moody people. When
their mood is off, they become too lazy but after that laziness, they work much
faster than it was really expected. Only one suggestion! The next generation
people of Sain Dyansty should not waste their time and energy in physical
fighting like hooligans, rather they must keep it at the level of mental
fighting like a professional warrior to come back again and again in odd times
and bad situations.
Ramchandra Rajvanshi:- While
doing this research, we got so many other facts that we may start other
researches also about the ancient people of India. Even the results of DNA
Tests are showing some interesting links of modern Indians with some other
races of ancient India and its neighbouring nations. So, all in all, we have
succeeded in finding at least 90% genuine facts and figures about the research
work on “HISTORY OF SAIN DYNASTY”.
Arindam:- Thank you to both of
you for sharing these valuable information to our viewers and thanks a lot for
coming to this show and spending some memorable moments out here. Viewers!
That’s all we have in this episode. See you again later. Goodbye!
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